Incident #1000637
Lancaster, Los Angeles Cty, California
Nov 1977
Account
Don Lien and Art Ramos said that a sasquatch crossed the road in front of their vehicle near Lake Hughes. They both saw it. On learning of the report two weeks later Rich Grumley investigated and found two sets of footprints in the vicinity, one 17 to 18 by 7 to 8 inches, the other 22 to 23 inches by 12 to 13 inches, in grass, no details given. No description of the creature given. In the California Bigfoot Organization bulletin, Jan. 1979, there is a mention that a woman also reported a large hairy biped near Lake Hughes, at a different location, around Nov.-Dec. 1977.
When
- Observation Date
- NOV 30 1977
- Month
- Nov
- Year
- 1977
- Season
- fall
- Time of Day
- before 10 p.m.
- Duration
- brief
Where
- State / province
- California
- County
- Los Angeles Cty
- Nearest Town
- Lancaster
- Direction from Town
- West
- Distance from Town
- 17
- Population of Town
- 40000
- Elevation/Altitude
- 40
- Latitude
- 34400-
- Longitude
- 118273-
What was seen
- Individuals
- one large, sex unknown
- Total Individuals
- 1
- Population Status
- rural
- First Seen
- on
- Terrain Object
- road
- Shot Hit
- No
- Tracks
- found later
Witnesses
- Witness(es) Sex
- Male
- Report type
- 2nd person
Setting
- Terrain
- foothill
- Exact Terrain
- road
- Nearby Water
- lake
- Cover
- heavy
- General
- none
- Undergrowth
- heavy
- General undergrowth
- none
Weather and light
- Lighting
- headlights
- Visibility Index
- 5
Source
- Source
- Rich Grumley, quoting Don Lien and Art Ramos, not
- Source Type
- colleague
- Source Date
- 1977
- Source reliability
- 5
- Incident reliablility
- 8
- Jwg file date
- 1977
- Incident type
- 3
Footprints 1
- Set of Tracks
- 2
- Footprint Length
- 17.5
- Greates Width
- 7.5
- Estimated Age
- 2
- Age Unit
- weeks
- Number of Tracks
- few
- Track Condition
- poor
- Other footprint codes
- 10293
- Direction of Travel
- North
- Material Tracks Made in
- sod
- Remarks
- Tracks in grass, no depth ascertained, length and width not exact, not enough tracks to measure stride. Apparently very poor. Travel direction given comes from the accompanying sighting report, not from the tracks. No description given, so no Creature report filed.
Footprints 2
- Set of Tracks
- 2
- Footprint Length
- 22.5
- Greates Width
- 12.5
- Estimated Age
- 2
- Age Unit
- weeks
- Number of Tracks
- few
- Track Condition
- poor
- Other footprint codes
- 10292
- Material Tracks Made in
- sod
- Remarks
- see 10292
Witness
- Sex
- Male
- Witness Saw with
- naked eye
- Observer Was
- in car
- Moving Y/N
- Yes
- Position
- seated
- Making Noise Y/N
- Yes
- No of witnesses
- 2
- Track witnesses
- several