Incident #1000322
Orleans, Humboldt Cty, California
1951
Account
This is a case of delayed recall. Orr states that he had no recollection of this incident after it happened, it only came back to him after the early Bigfoot stories jogged his memory. Hence the low reliability rating. Orr said he was driving from Happy Camp to Orleans via a forestry road high up on the north side of the Klamath River, because the regular road on the south bank was blocked by a slide. He had a fleeting glimpse in the headlights of a grey orangutan-type creature that quickly stepped off the road. Then his car seemed to skid and he had a glimpse in the rear-view mirror of an animal-human face illuminated by the taillights. A quarter mile down the road he stopped to try to pull aside a small tree down across the road. Then he heard feet pounding, and a hair-covered creature a bit larger than himself ran up to him and commenced circling around him. It would move away but whenever he moved back towards his idling car it rushed him. He thought it was getting increasingly angry, but eventually it got far enough off that he was able to rush back to the car, get in and smash the tree out of the way. He felt that something was trying to hold the car back, but it broke loose. The thing made a roaring, panting noise. He kept going and the memory blocked out before he reached Orleans. His step-father drove the same detour later in the night and told him something had tried to push his car off the road, but even that did not cause him to remember.
When
- Year
- 1951
- Season
- fall
- Time of Day
- 10 to midnight
- Duration
- 1 hour
Where
- State / province
- California
- County
- Humboldt Cty
- Nearest Town
- Orleans
- Direction from Town
- North
- Distance from Town
- 5
- Population of Town
- 200
- Elevation/Altitude
- 30
- Latitude
- 4127--
- Longitude
- 12337--
What was seen
- Individuals
- one large, sex unknown
- Total Individuals
- 1
- Population Status
- wild
- First Seen
- on
- Terrain Object
- road
- Near or/at
- occupied machine
- Super Human Action
- Shoved car around
- Shot Hit
- No
- Tracks
- not looked for
Witnesses
- Witness(es) Sex
- Male
- Report type
- 1st person
Setting
- Terrain
- hill
- Exact Terrain
- dirt road
- Slope
- easy
- Substratum
- fine material
- Ground condition
- wet
- Cover
- heavy
- Tree size
- mostly large
- Tree condition
- mostly mature
- Tree type
- mixed
- General
- none
- Undergrowth
- moderate
- Undergrowth size
- man high
- Undergrowth type
- hard stemmed
- General undergrowth
- none
Weather and light
- Heat
- normal
- Relative Temperature
- cool
- Rainfall
- normal
- Wind
- calm
- Clarity
- overcast
- Humidity
- downpour
- Lighting
- headlights
- Visibility Index
- 8
Source
- Source
- Joe C. Orr intv. by John Green. Also Orr letter to
- Source Type
- computer survey
- Source Date
- JAN 73
- Source reliability
- 5
- Incident reliablility
- 5
- Jwg file date
- 1967
- Incident type
- 1
Creature description
- Eyes
- average
- Eye shape
- round
- Human like Y/N
- Yes
- Reflection
- reflected, no colour stated
- Hair Covered
- yes
- Height
- 6 ft
- Build
- heavy
- Posture
- slightly stooped
- No hair on
- on face, on hands
- Hair Thin on
- chest
- Hair Length
- short
- Hair curl
- straight
- Appearance
- smooth
- Hair Colour
- grey
- Hair Shorter On
- head
- Face Colour
- dark
- Hands Colour
- dark
- Chin Y/N
- No
- Beard Y/N
- No
- Projecting Jaw Y/N
- No
- Neck Length
- short
- Neck Width
- wide
- Shoulders
- medium
- Shoulder Shape
- sloped
- Face Appeared
- humanlike
- Expression
- angry
- Forehead
- low
- Forehead Shape
- sloped back
- Brow Ridge
- small
- Nose
- no snout
- Nose Shape
- small nose
- Mouth Open?
- closed
- Lips
- thin
- Mouth Size
- large
- Torso Front
- normal
- Torso Shape
- uniform
- Abdomen
- no protrusion
- Legs
- medium
- Leg Width
- medium
- Arms
- long
- Arm Bulk
- medium
- Hands
- large
- Hands Appearance
- humanlike
- Digits
- long
- Movement
- staying still
- Later Movement
- chased, approached, watched observer
- Walking Stride
- long
- Walking Speed
- fast
- Running Stride
- long
- Running Speed
- fast
- Aggressive To
- witness
- Arms Action
- hanging
- Arms Used
- for hitting
- Object Handled
- vehicle
- Sound
- scream, grunt, panting
- Human Contact
- bluff, attempt entry
- Reaction
- ran at
- Attracted By
- human activity
- Way of Walking
- heel and toe
- Knees
- always bent
- Other Unusual Y/N
- Yes
- Describe Unsual
- Things the creature may have done included trying to push the car off the road, trying to smash its way into the car, and trying to pick up the back of the car or at least hold it back. It once thrust its face right up to the witness' face, but backed off when he threatened to punch it, and did not come as close again.
- Genitals
- not visible
- Additional Movement
- walked away, approached, made a noise
- Position when first seen
- erect
Witness
- Sex
- Male
- Interviewer
- John Green
- Interview date
- JAN 30 1973
- Witness Saw with
- naked eye
- Observer Was
- in car, outside on foot
- Moving Y/N
- Yes
- Position
- seated
- Making Noise Y/N
- Yes
- Closest horizontal distance
- under 5 feet
- Farthest horizontal distance
- 50 feet
- Least vertical distance
- nil
- Action on sighting
- stayed still
- No of witnesses
- 1
- Age
- 21 to 30
- Tape or Video
- Audio recording